Thank you for proving that this site is infected with right wing partisan Republicans.

Wanting politicians to follow the law makes one partisan? Interesting.

Doofus,

It is not against the law to sell the list. The judge ruled that the parties alone should not get the whole statewide list. Try reading the facts before expressing an opinion Mr. Barnes.

"Doofus"? Very nice. I also noticed you avoided answering my question regarding partisan views.

Also for the record DEMOCRATS argued to KEEP the law.

Here's from a Democratic web site so maybe you'll buy it as not being bias...

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5109

"The Democratic Party, whose attorneys have argued in favor of keeping the law, had also not decided whether to appeal, former party chairwoman Kathy Sullivan said."


Regardless of court rulings, the actions were at the time against the law. My question for you still stands as written.

Is waiting politicians to follow the law partisan?

You are so confused. You are confusing TWO issues.

1. It is not constitutional to allow the two parties but not other political organizations access to the information that is collected locally, sent to the Secretary of State and gathered into one statewide list. THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE BROUGHT TO THE COURT.

2. As to purchasing the information and attaching it to a significantly larger state wide list with numerous other bits of information (phone numbers, emails, donor, volunteer etc...) and then selling the larger list to candidates is LEGAL. It is called the FREE ENTERPRISE system. It is shocking to see that Republicans will dump their priniciples to score a few cheap political shots. Truly sad but very telling about how low the NH GOP has sunk.

Amused, it is NOT free enterprise when tax dollars are used to purchase the list to begin with!

Okay. So, if I owned a delivery truck I can't charge anyone to delivery goods to them because after all the government paved the roads and put up the signs. Or oh I can't get paid to work since I used government school books to learn to read and I was educated in government buildings by government employees and it should be illegal to use government services to make money. Good Grief...

Hey, why are you arguing with Barnes? You are expecting logic and reason? You clearly don't pay attention to his writings.

When you take a list compiled by the original author (The State of NH) and add to your own list and call it legit is illegal. Just as it is saying you can't take Microsoft Windows Program, use some of its source code and call it something else. That is true copyright infringement. Read the rules about US Copyright Laws and you will clearly see there was an infringement against the State of NH. Thanks NHInsider for the poll.

Amused let's see if I can spell this out really slow for you...

The state has a voter list. First of all they limit who is legally allowed to purchase that list (democrats supported that idea). Libertarians sued the state and won because of it, but as you said that's a side issue.

Carol Shea Porter purchased that list knowing it can only be purchased by the state by certain groups. She used tax dollars to do so.

She then turned around and made a profit by reselling that same list for thousands more.

As Robert correctly points out that would be like going to a computer store and purchasing Windows knowing it is licensed for just you then turning around and selling computers using that one single license to everyone who wants it making a profit on it. And what makes the matter worse is that Carol used tax dollars to make the original sale. So she's making a profit on an original investment by the tax payers and they see NO benefit from it.

But alas, when you have a congress woman who supported the largest tax hike in US history what's a couple hundred wasted tax dollars here and there.

1. Where did you get the whacky idea that our congresswoman "resold the list for a profit"? Now you are just making things up.

2. The list purchase actually SAVED taxpayers money.Thousands. Try buying a list from a list vendor and see how expensive it is.

3. For decades Voterfile companies have compiled voter information and sold access to the list. The information that the parties had access to is public information that can be obtained by anyone going from town hall to town hall.

4. Please provide the "licensing" that comes with NH's voter lists. You guys are just making things up. Should lawyers, mortgage lenders and all those who use property transfer information for their business be banned from accessing public information too?

Bottom line, selling the list is not illegal, It never has been and never will. it is public information and once you start going down that nonsensical road it...well, then again having a basis for your opinion isn't based on logic it about trying to prop up a dying party.

Here's a link that answers all your questions...

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/soren_dayton/2007/dec/14/carol_shea_porter_can_you_do_that_with_government_money

She purchased the list from the state at the cost of $5,000 using tax payers dollars. She then sold it to Democratic candidates and 3 commercial list brokers for $65,000 each. That money went to the NHDSC and would fit every definition of the word profit that I'm aware of with the exception of the biblical sense.

Then you look at NH code which reads as follows:

"No party shall use or permit the use of voter information provided by the secretary of state under paragraph I for commercial purposes"

""Commercial purposes'' means knowingly using, selling, giving, or receiving the checklist information for the purpose of selling or offering for sale any property or service unrelated to an election or political campaign."

You can argue that the candidates were a "political campaign" but the commercial list brokers?

And as for it being "public information" well that goes back to the point I already raised... it wasn't hence the lawsuit by the libertarian party.

Now I get it. Thanks for clarifying it for me. Its not you making things up it is posters on redstate blog making things up that you believe.

If you truly believe what you say then you should hire Chuckles Douglas and sue everyone for breaking the law - which of course will only expose you as a dimwit because no law was broken. Only you and your fellow travelers down Doofus Road think that.

Slightly Ammused, pinko, whitey, jason, manch voter, whatever you are going by today besides RAY:

You got spanked, and not in an Amsterdam way.

Democrat crooks used state money and an unconstitutional law to leverage and take advantage of a public document for their own use.

Spin all you want. The public knows it.

I call it "List Jamming".

But keep doing what comes naturally - be my guest.

Your mind seems very obsessed with sexual acts Mr. Naile. Very creepy.

Slightly Amused/Ray:

Then maybe I should run for Democrat Party Cahir!